tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5822869016413307981.post5236752424212185173..comments2024-03-28T18:40:51.572-04:00Comments on Tilting at Windmills: Midsummer rantsCWMartinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06798867734074134647noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5822869016413307981.post-52272650794229830782011-06-21T16:12:47.021-04:002011-06-21T16:12:47.021-04:00Joshua:
I've really debated whether to respond...Joshua:<br />I've really debated whether to respond to this. In a perfect world, what you say is concrete-true and we can get along. But we both know that any speech the kid wants to give has to be filtered through the principal, who will either a) go into a pc panic and shut him down as happened in this case or b) allow it, at which point he becomes the "government trigger" you mentioned and the ACLU etc. comes in.<br /><br />Just a week or so ago a judge denied a school system to even as much as have someone to say "amen". I was glad to see that a higher court overturned such an obvious breach of free speech- a breech which, in my opinion, should cost that judge his seat. But it shows what these christian cbhildren and their administrators are faced with. And frankly, I don't understand. If you were valedictorian and came up to give an atheist speech, I wouldn't be offended. I would use my common sense to realize that those sentiments were yours, and not reflective of the school or the government. As long as you weren't saying things like "God sucks" or something insulting to the PERSON of God, whatever. I don't have to agree, I don't even have to listen. But the constitution says you get your say, and it doesn't really hurt me. But if I got up and thanked Jesus Christ for His help in my graduation, I'm in danger of being expelled because I offended you. (theoretical you, not nec. real you) Why can you not just not believe, or not pay attention? Granted, I need to stay within these same bounds (i.e. no "you're going to hell"), and I shouldn't be heckling your speech. Why is it anything I say can be 1st amendment protected, but when I mention God I'm suddenly speaking for the gov't?CWMartinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06798867734074134647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5822869016413307981.post-77243676408282783192011-06-19T10:27:29.537-04:002011-06-19T10:27:29.537-04:00CWM:
I am SO glad you took up the mantle on this.
...CWM:<br />I am SO glad you took up the mantle on this.<br />I was bounciong back and forth on whether or not to post about it,but you did it marvelously!<br />And you knocked this ball outta the park with your commentary.<br /><br />Kudos to you, my friend.<br /><br />God Bless & stay safe up there.Bob G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09222203353717749897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5822869016413307981.post-74989034031517404302011-06-19T08:29:29.229-04:002011-06-19T08:29:29.229-04:00Preach on, Brother!! Well said!Preach on, Brother!! Well said!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03284151996869753065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5822869016413307981.post-42630973210723906472011-06-18T15:45:39.014-04:002011-06-18T15:45:39.014-04:00It's true that I've been hearing many stor...It's true that I've been hearing many stories along these same lines, but this is the first one that I heard about the student getting in trouble. Most of the time the problem is that the school is trying to lead the rest of the student in some religious ceremony. The Valedictorian mentioning god is his speech isn't a problem, and the ACLU has said as much. That is because the student is speaking on behalf of the student. The problem is when teacher, administrators, or other school faculty mention religion or hold prayer during the ceremony. They speak for the school, and if the school is funded by government money then you have to uphold separation of church and state. <br /><br />In short. <br />Students can "Give glory to God"<br />School Employees Cannot<br /><br />Students can endorse a specific religion<br />The School must remain neutral.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01098270701043463880noreply@blogger.com