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Wednesday, October 22, 2025

Wednesday Bible Study: Hell part three

 


"I'd rather laugh with the sinners that cry with the saints

the sinners are much more fun...."


That Billy Joel lyric is a thought prevading those who refuse to take Hell seriously.  What I hope I have done over these last two posts is convince you to take Hell- its reasons and requirements- seriously.  But now I ask the question- what is Hell to be like?

I know one problem in conceiving Hell is "How can these things happen forever?  A fire that never goes out? C'mon?"  And here, I can dip into the wisdom of comic books!  A long time ago, Marvel ran a series where the loosely-based-on-Satan character Mephisto was playing a trading game to capture the soul of the cursed hero Thor, who was an Asgardian "god".  In capturing a mortal of good character with which to "trade up", he told his attendant demons, "Subject her to some of the lesser tortures, but have a care!  She is of flesh, and more fragile than a naked spirit."  Spirits are indeed more durable than flesh; they last forever, whatever condition they find themselves in.  Thus, you can rest assured that if you go, you WILL go through this forever.


Another thing to keep in mind is that there is punishment BEFORE the final Hell.  The final Hell is the Lake of Fire, into which all the evil will finally be cast, after the Great White Throne judgment when all is remade.  But death in the here and now merits you Hades, which Jesus described in His telling of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 13. But before we get there... There are a handfull of beings that will experience punishment in the flesh.  Here I reference the Book of Enoch, which while not properly Bible cannon, was quoted by the Apostles, notably Jude and 2 Peter.  Before Noah, the world was ruined spiritually and physically by the Watchers (referenced in Genesis 6), angels who left Heaven to take on flesh and breed with human women.  The physical damage was caused from the offspring of these matches, whom Genesis politely calls, "the Mighty men of old, the heroes of reknown", but Enoch better names monsters.  The spiritual was from the Watchers themselves, led by a being called Azazel, who taught men war, weapon-making, sorcery, horoscopes, and other dark arts.

While the Watchers were made to watch, Enoch says, the flood killed the mortal bodies of these offspring; they become the demons we know of (and, as I have noted before, explains why Jesus said that a cast-out demon will "seek out arid places", in Matthew 12:43).  Azazel and the others are bound and taken to a "place" like Hell Enoch called Dudael.  The others are bound to seven dark stars on the edges of existence; Azazel gets a darker fate.  He is bound hand and foot, buried "under jagged rocks", with absolutely no light reaching his eyes, until the last judgment when he also gets the Lake of Fire with the others.  The only other beings to reach the Lake Of Fire wearing flesh will be the Antichrist and the False Prophet, right after the Armageddon War (Revelation 19:20).


With just what I've typed so far, you get the main features of Hell: fire and darkness.  But I want to dig a little more.  Both Enoch and Jesus tell us that, at least in Hades, the damned will be seeing the blessed in Heaven, at a great and uncrossable distance.  They will have as a punishment the ability to see what they threw away.


They will also have the accusations against them played before them.  Jesus taught this in Matthew 12; the Men of Nineveh, who repented at the preaching of Jonah, will condemn those who reject Jesus at the judgment, as will the Queen of Sheba, who fainted at the wisdom of Solomon, but recognizes the greater wisdom of Jesus.  This meshes well with Enoch, also.  He tells us that Abel will continue to accuse the damned until the judgment comes.

And I asked Raphael the angel who was 6 with me, and I said unto him: 'This spirit which maketh suit, whose is it, whose voice goeth forth and maketh suit to heaven ?' 7 And he answered me saying: 'This is the spirit which went forth from Abel, whom his brother Cain slew, and he makes his suit against him till his seed is destroyed from the face of the earth, and his seed is annihilated from amongst the seed of men.' 


Jesus often mentioned it as a place, "where the worm dies not, and the fire is never quenched".  This He takes not only from experience, but from Isaiah 66:


Isa 66:24  “As they go forth, they will see the corpses of the men who have rebelled against Me; for their worm will never die, their fire will never be quenched, and they will be a horror to all mankind.” 

"Worm" means voracious maggots.  Where the maggots die off (or turn to flies) as the flesh of a body is consumed, these are maggots that will eat at the spirit- and as a spirit cannot die (as we know death), the consuming by worm and fire will go on.  Another feature of Hell is brought up in the next words of Enoch: That the souls of the damned will be seperated from each other- no companionship.  And further:  They will be seperated by sin-class: those who never received any judgment in life "shall be set apart in this great pain till the great day of judgement and punishment and torment of those who curse for ever and retribution for their spirits."  Others will get lesser punishments, which goes along with what Jesus told the cities he lived in:

Mat 10:14  And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town. 

Mat 10:15  Truly, I say to you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town. 


So three classes of judgment PRIOR to the Lake of Fire:  Those who "got away with it", those who were never taught the Gospel, and those who heard it and rejected it- and if you haven't accepted it, this is now your category.


But finally, in the end, the sinners will be assembled before the Judge at the Great White Throne; every misdeed, every careless word, will be weighed; and then...

Rev 20:12  And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 

Rev 20:13  And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. 

Rev 20:14  Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 



So you see, we have death all messed up.  The first death is when your body dies and your chances of making a choice are over; the second death is the result of that choice.



Sunday, October 19, 2025

Your age is showing.

 Last night, my son took me out to a "Emo" concert at the local music stage.  To explain:  This was a tribute group called the All-American Throwbacks (the name a tribute to one of those emo bands, the All-American Rejects), who bill themselves as a "pop-punk-emo- party band".  My son had to help me overcome a misconception: my brain equated "emo" with "goth", and while there are some mixing points, they are not the same.  Not near so hard, usually; tending towards the emotional rather than the nihilism of goth.  In other words, emo has a far greater chance of being enjoyed by Mr and Mrs America.

On the way in, we ran into one of my son's co-workers- after theat, I became, "the Old Man."  A nickname I have worn before, so not a bother to me.  However, the dude was right: I heavily skewed the age curve at the event.

Another distinguishing mark was the looks you got going on here.  The guys, with a few exceptions- and even fewer extreme exceptions- were basically normal.  The girls were quite another story.  I don't remember seeing green hair, but purple and pink were dominant colors, and red and at least one orange were in evidence. A good 20% of the girls that filed past our spot in front of the stage had black lipstick; most were pierced at one spot or another; around 85% were wearing as tight of outfits as they could keep from popping off, a good three quarters had some sort of mesh, topped off by one lady (KC siad she was a bartendress) who wore an outfit I called "netting and nothing."


Sadly, the younger they were, the more likely they were to be obese to one extent or another.  There was a time I would have been on the fringes of my element there... those days, I guess, are gone.  At one point, the lead singer stopped and asked, "How many of you are 80's kids?" (Obviously, he was leading in to playing 1985 by Bowling For Soup).  Then on through the decades to the 2010s.  I guess I shouldn't be too upset I never heard a question about "1960s kids"; even KC only made the 80s (1989).  Put me in mind, when that song hit the line, "...and music still on MTV", I told KC this week MTV went off the air for good.


These guys do put out- three hours playing with a 15 minute break in the middle.  I actually amazed KC when I told him that I counted 12 songs I knew  at first break (I ended up with 25, plus 32 times being struck by a bouncing girl's backside- probably 15 of them on just 2 songs- and had my foot stepped on four times.).

The band were true showmen, with all but the bass player singing at one point or another, a guitar duel to Weezer's Beverly Hills, a "wheel of next song" (won by Paramore), and at one point, the drummer-turned singer picking the nose of the singer turned second lead guitar.  The backdrop screen often played chopped up versions of videos to the original, along with animations and the occasional lyric.

Now mind you, my version of "dancing" involves swaying, occasional clapping, but never do the feet move.  Thus it was that at the break, I found re-learning to walk was a necessity, and I went to bed rubbing Vicks into my calves.  My only problem was the two songs I liked the best were the ones they did (IMHO) the worst jobs on; KC's problem was they didn't do any Hawthorne Heights.


On the bright side, unlike the last show I went to with KC (Everclear, Local H, and the forgettable Marcy Playground), I didn't come home with ringing ears and a next-day mini-concussion; still, I'm thinking that maybe a Jersey Boys show might just be more my speed!

Friday, October 17, 2025

Pictures

 So in between taking piles of my bedroom to the trash, and assisting Laurie increasing the usable size of our living room, Misty and I have gotten in three walks this week.  Wait a minute, no work again?  What can I say, stuff is slow, so I took Wednesday and Thursday as vacays and used them to make my bedroom a livable space again.  (Realizing, of course, the concept is relative.)  Here are the walk pics:


Rained yesterday, not that you can tell

See? Rain.

The rain we weren't supposed to get was followed by Ft Wayne's version of "partly sunny"

There's a rainbow I like


Chickory hanging in there


Trying to catch a hawk in flight


Big Guy won't change from green till the ground is white

watching distant discers


Wondering what this is sectioned off for

Darn baby discers and their socks...

This one too


that's a lot of exposed bank

"Is your old ass about ready?"



Never did quite figure out what this critter was...

...looked like a kitten raised by squirrels TBH

Almost trampled by the thundering herd

First time I ever heard a stork squawk so much flying by

Now that's red

So much for the 15th.  Here is the 16th...


Ah, there's the sun


A bit frosty and foggy



Some little white guys hanging on, too

Short and sweet!  Much like today...

Hmm... a little earlier today


Somwhere in this mess is a squirrel knocking walnuts to the ground...

Misty's been itching to use the shortcut again...

...and today, she said, "We're going"

Made it-

-right behind Big Guy.  Good job!

Almost the only ones we saw were this lady and her little doggie

The mighty towers of Ft Wayne


Trying to show Misty's breath

I'm not sure Stony Run is even making it to the river anymore

Blue Jay flies by

Okay, so now to the re-arranging.  Let me find us a before for the Living room...



And now...



And my room...

Note that you can see the floor