I admit to being confused and bemused when a customer going by the handle of "val" seemingly responded to last night's "What Is Hell" post on the comments to Friday's Time Machine. As I read the response, and the website He/she linked to, I can see how it made "perfect sense" to put it on Time Machine ( ;<0 ). Here is the response:
I would like to invite you to read a special gift from the wilderness Rev 12:6...Not one child of God will be put in a hell fire no matter what their sins. It never entered the heart or mind of God to ever do such a thing and I prove it by the word of God at http://minigoodtale.wordpress.com. The true Gospel (Gospel means Good Tale) now delivered Rev 12:5, 13 sets all free as a witness.
Yeah, just about as confusing on this website as well. The gist of the website starts with the logical fallacy I show you here:
John 3:16 all will believe, each in their own order 1 Cor 15:23.
*Rom 14:11-12 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
*1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
ALL WILL CONFESS! All will be cleansed from all unrighteousness each in their own order (Isa 1:18).
Get it? If at the coming of Christ every knee shall bow and every tongue confess, and confession merits salvation, then this final confession lets everyone into heaven. Failing to take into account that, according to Revelation 22, by this time their confession falls on deaf ears:
10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near. 11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”
But building on this misconception, he/she totally verges off the original meaning of the scripture:
*Ps 89:46 How long, LORD? wilt thou hide thyself for ever? shall thy wrath burn like fire?.
God’s emotions are as a fire. Our emotions burn inside us also. All souls will be consumed by the word of God. Everyone will be very emotional when they are in front of the judgment seat of God. They will be in the hot seat. They will be devoured in Love, understanding, forgiveness and mercy because he has directed all of our lives Pro 16:9.
Because we are all going to heaven, the fire that the wicked are to be burned in is a fire of emotions. Val, I hate to tell you, but treating the Word Of God as an allegory when it is meant to be interpreted literally is what got Harold Camping looking like an idiot. Re-read- if indeed you read it- my original post on the subject. I researched the the word meanings through Strong's concordance to see what I would find (rather than "finding" what I was looking for, as you appear to be doing). God's word leaves absolutely no doubt on two points. The first you are correct on- there is no condemnation and no second death for the Child Of God. The second, in which you are sorely mistaken, is that some will alienate themselves from God and merit eternal damnation- a damnation that is called "the second death" and will include the fiery emotion you spoke of, but it will be righteous anger and not love, as well as physical and mental punishment beyond our capacity to understand.
Anyone can find a group of random and misapplied verses such as you have to make any twisted point they want. As an example, I point out to you that you WILL NOT FIND A LIE in what Satan said to Eve in Genesis 3:4. And in Matthew 4, he never misquoted scripture. Do yourself a favor and research the subject of Hell and Eternal damnation, as I did. Then perhaps it would behoove you to take a heartfelt look at Galatians 1:8:
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
God is indeed a God of Love. That is why He sent His Son, a part of the totality that is Himself, and suffered Him to die on the cross for our sins. If your theory is correct, then God intends to lower the bar and Christ died for NO REASON. Jesus does not forgive our sins in the sense of, "you pushed me down in the playground, but that's okay"; He forgives them in the sense that HE PAID FOR THEM. Thus, when an actual Child of God goes before the throne, God opens the ledger and finds the account marked paid. God DOES NOT FORGIVE SINS AT THE JUDGEMENT SEAT, as you suggest; if you are a child of God, those sins were wiped away at Calvary. And if you are a sinner at the end of time, you can bow all you want and Christ will say," 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!'" (Luke 13:27)
And the woman of Revelation 12 (which is expressly described as a sign, or allegory) is the Hebrew people, and the travails they will face after the Church is raptured; what you were getting at, I haven't a clue.
(BTW, my friends: "val" neither has a public blogger profile nor any attempt at one on his/her page. Makes me wonder why he's/she's hiding under a basket.)