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Tuesday, June 7, 2011

More entertainment at the well of the mistaken

If any of you were curious enough to read Val's response to last night's post, I would like to clarify things for you.  Val, if you are still listening, I'm not so much directing this at you since your post answered for me exactly what I am dealing with in you.  I will be praying for you, you poor deluded dear.  I will also pray for any of those gullible enough to swallow the snippets of coherence you actually show.

For the rest of us, let us take a look at some of the major and many misinterpretations about the Word that Val's response contained.  In order of appearance, we start with the claim that no one goes to Hell, a claim posited from Gen. 3:19.  This is the "man is dust and to dust he shall return" verse.  What Val skips merrily past here is that God is talking to a pair of people who have just lost their glorified, immortal bodies they were created with because of their sin.  God is explaining the rules of their new mortal existence to them.  It has nothing to do with their spiritual future.

Second, the continuing adventures of the woman of Revelation 12.  When I said last night that I had no clue where she was going with this ( which is why I didn't bring any of it up in last night's post- I was too confused), I had no idea that the answer would be that SHE (Val) is this woman, who she believes will be (or she is, it's kinda hard to tell since Val keeps going from first to third person) a prophet who will bruise Satan with the truth.  (And we'll get to THAT sidelight later.)  Anyway, she claims to be the Prophet that Peter referenced in his sermon as being like Moses.  Even a cursory reading of the entire passage shows us that Peter believed Moses (and rightly so) was talking about the coming of Christ.  For someone who chides me more than once in her response as not looking at the whole story, I have to shake my head here.

Third, another example she gives trying to prove that no one goes to Hell is the verse where Christ, in prayer to His father, says that He had lost none of those given Him save the Son Of Perdition.  Val, Jesus was making SPECIFIC mention of His twelve Disciples, and the Son of Perdition was Judas Iscariot.  This is not a passage that you can generalize to fit your purposes.  Do you know the guys over at

Fourth, Val would like to believe that she is the second coming of Elijah prophesied in Malachi 4.  Uh, Val, Jesus Himself says in Matt. 11:14 that this prophecy referred to John the Baptist.  I don't recall Him saying, "And next time around, Elijah will be reincarnated in..."

Finally, a pair of references used to show her authority as this Woman.  Jeremiah 31:22 mentions that " How long will you gad about, O you backsliding daughter? For the LORD has created a new thing in the earth—
A woman shall encompass a man.”  That is the NKJ translation, and Val says it means that she will have power over the man (Which is Satan).  The NIV translation swaps "encompass" for "return to", and adds the note that another possible translation would be "will protect"- either one far from Val's interpretation, which also misses the point that the passage is the end of an allegory having the unfaithful woman (Israel) returning to her Husband (God).  The other is a favorite of Val's- the idea she gleans from Gen 3:15 that she, as the Woman will "bruise Satan in the Heel of time."  OH, how many things are wrong here?!!?  For starters, the woman's ( Eve, not any coming woman prophet) OFFSPRING is the one who will battle with the serpent.  HE (not she) will crush his (the serpent's ) head while "you" (speaking to the serpent) will bruise HIS heel.  So let's see- the wrong woman; the woman's offspring, not the woman herself; the serpent does the bruising rather than getting bruised (although he might sustain theoretic bruises whilst getting his head mushed).

Like I said, I don't suspect that any of this will influence Val, as it is notoriously hard to convince a prophet they are wrong- Check 1 Kings 22 for a good example.  For the rest of you, consider this a PSA in the interests of those who want you to read and learn for yourself.

1 comment:

  1. CWM:
    Can't find a thing wrong with YOUR explanation (and excellent source verses...all spot-on).

    "hard to convince a prophet they're wrong"...LOL.

    Well that explains why I NEVER attempt to talk to them (as they try to panhandle a buck off of me on some street).

    And even with all that I have learned from the Good Book (and am still learning), I would never even think of calling myself a PROPHET...not on a DARE!

    A "messenger" perhaps, but a prophet?
    Don't want THAT kinda responsibility hangin' over MY head.
    Got enough trouble aimed at me for speaking the TRUTH (too often) as it

    Excellent post.
    God Bless ' got the Spirit.

    Stay safe up there.