A FB friend of hers then berated her, saying this was "just as ignorant" as saying all Mexican migrants are terrorists or criminals (which neither my friend nor the cartoon says), and posited that this "racism" showed "hatred in her heart." Needless to say, I hadda put in my two cents- that she needed to actually read the post and the cartoon, that they both had a valid point. The lady then once again pointed out what we were all agreed on- that not all Muslims are terrorists- and went on to blame it on US because we didn't finish setting them on the straight and narrow after our war on terror. To which I expressed that THEY need to take some responsibility for the sh!t sandwich they currently live in- they're the ones that let the dirtbags that run/ran their nations IN charge, and maybe they should straighten out their countries rather than playing rat-and-sinking-ship. I even agreed that "you shouldn't hate a whole people on the actions of a few".
At this point, she excused herself, calling an intelligent discussion "a troll fest". (After I explained to her what a troll was, she rescinded that term, choosing to go with she thought it was "when people not in the discussion enter the discussion." I apologized for not seeing the (this person only) button.
But now, let me bring up the points she couldn't quite grasp.
Germany has basically been caught making promises for the whole EU yet again. Guess what? Hungary had neither the resources nor the interest in being the sidewalk from Syria to Germany. Police had little choice but to react violently while the government tried to figure out what to do and Germany stood by with one thumb firmly up their ass.
They weren't the only ones. Just today, Denmark cut all rail ties with Germany to prevent their becoming the migrant wave's walkway to Sweden. Even if you remove the consideration of terrorism, no country wants to, or should be subjected to, an invasion of their sovereignty because of the promises of a neighbor. Germany and Sweden want to take in refugees, fine. Good for them. PROVIDE THEM AN EGRESS THAT DOESN'T SCREW OVER YOUR NEIGHBORS.
Next up, let's discuss these alleged "refugees". A BBC article I read a few days back when this all got started (Tip to the lady commenter: Try looking at some REAL news sources. Become informed.) said that the hedges and bushes at the Serb/Hungarian border were littered with IDs from Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other known hotbeds of terrorist thought, discarded after receiving fresh new Serbian made fake Syrian IDs that would get them into Germany. So you want me to trust that most/many/any of these refugees are legit?
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And what about the people getting in? One refugee when interviewed told BBC he blamed the US and Europe for what was happening in his homeland... so where does he move to? Yeah. This isn't about fear or principles. This is a bunch of opportunists using the suffering of others as their way to go live somewhere where they don't have to eat camel pot pies every day.
The lady was right about one thing. There are many of these people who are legitimately fleeing war, fleeing religious persecution. I wish we could just close our eyes, click our heels, and give everyone of them a good home. But like in everything else touched by fallen man, for everyone in legit need there are three douchebags either seeking a way to sneak in, or a place that should go to someone needy. You can't just believe in the good in everybody- you never could. And you can't say that when someone speaks out about a specific subset of a group (such as ISIS), they are being hateful to the WHOLE group. That flies about as far as those who call me racist because I oppose President Obama, because if you oppose a black president it HAS to be because he's black (Note: I opposed Bill Clinton too. Does that mean I hate pervs?).
And you don't start a comment thread by calling someone ignorant or having a heart of hate and then hint that I'M a troll.