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Sunday, May 5, 2013

What can you say about...

There are none so blind, I guess, so I thought I would send you one last chapter in the continuing drama of "Chris the milquetoast Christian".  Much to my surprise, our dear friend the "Sword Of God" (my tongue-in-cheek term, not hers), sent not only a reply, but a novel, which I shall now share, along with my editorial comments.

I find in funny that spiritual cowards and disobedient Christians like you decide to pick and choose the verses that allow you to condone sin and avoid any kind of controversy or trouble for yourself.
(She must get a good laugh doing her blog...)
The bible says very clearly, “Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom”. The wisest man who ever lived and who will ever live said those words. But people like you act like God didn’t say those words. Fear of God is throughout the bible- but in your ‘wisdom’, I guess those words are hateful.
(I find nothing hateful in GOD'S words... but fear involves reverence, and reverence involves when God says, Vengeance is mine, you leave it to him...)

Jesus also warned that if the world loves you, you are NOT following the Word of God. He also said we would be hated because of his name.
(Let's see.  5,992 people like you on Facebook.  I have 63 followers. Hmmm...)
People like you, in your complete disobedience to God, have decided YOU know how to express God’s will better than the bible. Really? God’s words are there, clear to see, and yet, you call me a HATER for simply writing them for all to see.
(Nope, I called you a hater because Jesus told us that we will be judged by our fruit.)
 Gee, I thought that is why God gave us his Word- to tell others about it. But people like you don’t want to see it- why? I know why. You don’t want other people to hate you. You are afraid that they will judge you. You know that to tell the truth about our God (that he is FEARSOME) will cause you, personally, a great amount of trouble. Jesus said, “11“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
(And He also said in the same passage to be meek and poor of spirit, and that by living THAT life is why they will revile you.  Kinda like you are doing to me.  He didn't say go out and drum up business.)

Salt and Light

13“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.”

You have no saltiness because you try to use YOUR words and not the living Word of God. You, in your own human version of ‘wisdom’ have decided that you will ONLY speak the words of looooooove and stickiness and honey into the ears of mankind.
(Anybody who got to the end of this week's Sunday message think I'm like that?  She does, and at the end you'll see why.)
  But that clearly is not what God intended as he also gave the words in my article above. You do this because you don’t want to be hated- you want to be seen as a ‘loving Christian’, a ‘modern Christian’, and most of all, a ‘reasonable Christian’. ALL of these things are motivated by selfishness- not a true desire to serve God. You are unwilling to lay down your life (by being hated for telling the TRUTH about God) for your fellow man- or for God. And so, you will lose it. So, YOU are the rebellious one toward God. And yet you dare to come to me and tell me that I HATE people by giving them the Word of God? Then you judge God, mister. And I don’t want to be in your shoes when you try explaining that to him when you see him.
(You'll be there, too.  I expect we'll compare notes then.)

There is only one person who is picking and choosing scripture and it’s you.
(Sure seems like I found an awful lot of it.  And unlike your typical post, it actually has to do with the topic.  You're more like "using vain repetitions... to be heard for all your many words.")
 Please note that I have no need to mock other Christians or use their blogs as ‘examples’ of what Christians are NOT. You must wonder why.
(1. You DO mock other Christians.  2. I don't wonder why.  You like being a big frog in your own small pond.)
 It is because I am confident in what I am saying. Please note that I have never, nor will I ever, visit your blog.
(See? I told you you'd find out why she thinks I'm all sweetness and light.  The only thing she really knows about me- or anyone else she battles with- is that I disagree with her.)
My mission is 100% focused on the Lord. Your mission is to be right and/or to be a ‘better Christian’ than others. Good luck with that when you explain yourself and your actions to God. p.s. The Westboro Baptist thing? Really?

Now as you might guess, you've seen most of my response.  I did have to add at the end:

Oh, and the Westboro Baptist thing?  If the shoe fits...

I feel sorry for her, because she is "100% committed" to someone she's not yet met, apparently.  You see, the post this has all been going on in was an attack on Christians who say, "love the sinner, hate the sin."  She sees God leveling Sodom, washing away the Ancient world, wiping out the Canaanites, as evidence that God hates both sinner and sin.  She conveniently forgets to add the word "unrepentant" in front of "sinner".  Equally conveniently, she forgets Paul saying in 1 Timothy 2,  Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior... as well as it is God's will that ALL men be saved.  Like she says, it's right there in God's word, but I'm a cowardly false Christian for putting it out there for all to see.

I will confess I am partially posting this for its entertainment value, as I do most things.  But the MAIN reason I have posted this is to be a warning-  ANYONE can call themselves a Christian and post stuff.  The wisest man I ever met, the late Frank Kalko, had a rule that you must read at least 10 verses before and after any verse you use to get the context in which it was meant.  I give you the verse numbers so you can look it up, apply the Kalko rule, and see if I am telling the truth or selling you manure.  NEVER TAKE ANY PREACHER AT THEIR WORD, look it up yourself!  I am NOT 100% confident in what I say, because I am mortal, human, and fallen just like the rest of us, the "Sword of God" excepted.

But one thing I am fairly confident in is this two sided coin.  One side, I love God because God first loved me, sins and all.  Other side, God only hates those who totally and permanently reject Him first.

So here ends the story of the "Sword of God"- at least as far as this blog is concerned.  If the tale has had any purpose, it is in that last line.  Let it color your Christian walk or lighten your journey to find Him.  Maybe then something good will come from her "Christianity." 





    A big thank you for calling my attention to this!

    Your responses "intercut" within her long rant are GREAT! Both accurate AND entertaining. Who could ask for more?

    It's too bad she won't be seeing your replies, but I can fully understand why you'd not want to bother with her any more on her blog. That is truly the most un-Christian so-called "Christian" I can recall ever having encountered.

    She's so screwy that she's almost a living, breathing cartoon character Christian. She is also a good example of why I ceased referring to myself as a "Christian" many years ago. There is too much baggage that comes with that term now (similar to "Conservative"), and to avoid being lumped in with the Susan Shannon's of the world, I refer to myself simply as "a follower of Christ".

    Anyway, Bro, I wanted you to know that I read these two recent blog bits, I enjoyed them, and appreciate you pointing me in their direction. Chances are I would have come across them later anyway, but not when they are so "fresh off the presses".

    I also left a lengthy reply for you on my own blog as well, and something I wrote in it is probably going to surprise the heck out of you. Then again... maybe not. (Is there ANYTHING Susan Shannon could do that would surprise you at this point?)

    Incidentally, I also really like your nickname for her - "Sword Of God". That woman is a S.O.G. (Being something of a cartoon character, she's easy to invent nicknames for, eh?)

    Thanks again.

    ~ D-FensDogg
    'Loyal American Underground'

  2. Thing about religion of any sort, is it's all about interpretation. One priest/pastor/preacher can belong to the same "sect" of religion and have entirely different perspectives.

    I think what is most important is that even if you find a church that you are comfortable in, don't ever take that ONE preacher's word as God's. He is merely an interpreter, and in the end, it is us who have to be accountable for our own interpretation. There is no standing at the pearly gates and saying "it's all his fault."

    1. Well put, Juli. That along with the Concept of a God of mercy was the whole point. I might disagree, and peacefully debate, anyone's concept, and know I don't have to be exactly correct, because God deals with each person individually. But I wanted to warn people that if you're dealing with someone who consigns you to hell for disagreeing with them PERSONALLY, odds are you shouldn't listen to them.

  3. CWM:
    (on your part)

    As for the whole "trust and verify" REAL well when dealing with scripture and God as well as with man (Reagan was onto something there).

    I always do my OWN "homework" regarding anything I read, and that DOES include those who use Biblical quotes.
    CONTEXT is the whole ball of wax here.

    Your commenters are people who are wise beyond their own belief, as are you.

    And, as we all know, WISDOM is not only the proper application of KNOWLEDGE, but a light unto many paths.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Keep the faith.
    Stay safe up there.

    1. Too bad S.O.G. doesn't think so...

  4. I'd like to add one more brief remark here:

    When it comes to interpreting passages from The Bible, there is our own personal interpretation (what they seem to say to our own individual human mind); and there's the interpretations of others that might shine a light on aspects of the passage we hadn't previously considered (e.g., what we hear from preachers, priests, and read by published Bible "scholars"); and finally - and most importantly - there is the understanding we receive from God's Holy Spirit.

    The Bible clearly states that it is God's Will for us to understand His prophets, and Jesus told us that God's Holy Spirit will personally, individually, teach God's people and Christ's disciples what "The Word" really means.

    Although I have fallen off the table and wandered from the tracks in recent years, I can personally testify that God's Holy Spirit REALLY WILL teach the Truth to those people devoted to God.

    So many times I believed this or that - based on what I thought The Bible said - only to be corrected later, and sometimes in very remarkable (mini-miracle) ways.

    We really do need to read "The Word" daily, to be prayerful, and to meditate on God's Word. Some of the messages and answers that will come to us - and the ways they are delivered - are utterly astounding!

    Jesus has answered me on a few occasions in such ways that if I were forced to make a bet on the reality of Jesus "OR" me, I wouldn't hesitate to bet that Jesus is the real Person, and I'm the myth - if only ONE of us truly exists.

    I guess that wasn't so "brief" after all, was it?

    ~ D-FensDogg
    'Loyal American Underground'